Conservative Ben Shapiro Disarms Bill Maher on His Own Show
One can think what they may about liberal icon Bill Maher, but the man is not afraid of a difficult conversation. Conservative firebrand Ben Shapiro sat down with Bill Maher this past week and despite the hostility of the crowd walked away a winner. Having faithfully represented conservative thought without caving to identity politics, Shapiro also demonstrated that conservative thought is free and independent of Trump. It existed before Trump and it will exist long after Trump has exited the political stage. Bill Maher did his best to make Shapiro speak of Trump’s misdeeds and conservatism as one. Shapiro refused to take the debate and left Maher empty handed on his own show in front of his home audience. See for yourself before reading further.
Trump and Conservatism
Watching the conversation, it was clear early on that Maher’s goal was to make conservatism and Trump one in the same. Maher indicated that while he was always liberal, he was coy about claiming affiliation as a Democrat. However, he said the time for that was over and offered a Sith-lord like proposal that if you are not for me then you are my enemy. Maher claimed that there are only two camps and if you are not a Democrat then you are on team Trump.
Shapiro refused to take the bait and reminded Maher that Shapiro has been very vocal when he believes Trump is wrong. He stated he was critical of Republicans who were somehow in support of Russia, tariffs and more just because of Trump. He then reminded Maher that he never voted for Trump because he had concerns about how Trump might fail conservatism.
When pressed why Shapiro would vote for Trump in the future over a Democrat, Shapiro reminded him that it boils down to policy. If you are a conservative, then you like the tax cuts and you like the appointment of a conservative justice. The truth is that while Trump has undertaken actions to disappoint many conservatives, there is still more to like about Trump than a Democrat for a conservative. If you take away the identity politics and are left to look at policy, Trump is by far better for conservatives than Hillary Clinton would have been.
Civil Discourse and Identity Politics
The conversation then moved to an area that both Shapiro and Maher agree on. Despite his liberal leanings, Maher has long railed on Democrats for their use of identity politics and has scoffed as their need for a safe space. He even acknowledged that conservatives who come on his show display more courage than liberals as liberals do not participate on conservative shows. When speaking of this lack of civil discourse, Maher then tried to put the blame squarely on Trump.
Shapiro fought back and mentioned the fact that he need 600 law enforcement officers to protect him when he gave a speech at Berkeley. Maher tried to call that an elephant and a mouse while Shapiro fired back, “No, it’s an elephant and an elephant.” Neither party has any moral high ground when it comes to civility and Shapiro refused to let conservatives take the fall.
It was remarkable performance that even had the liberal leaning site The Daily Beast calling a loss for Maher. What it demonstrates to America is that there were conservatives before Trump and there will be conservatives after Trump. They do not own every action committed by Trump and nor does it negate the merit of conservative philosophy. Shapiro indicated that the President must be held accountable and if the President should fire Mueller then impeachment is on the table. Maher was left with no alternative than to simply shake Shapiro’s hand and end the conversation. All conservatives would do well to watch the exchange and arm yourself for the next time a political foe attempts to equate the long legacy of conservatism with every action from a controversial President.